{"id":1065,"date":"2016-11-19T17:31:40","date_gmt":"2016-11-19T22:31:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/?p=1065"},"modified":"2016-11-19T17:31:40","modified_gmt":"2016-11-19T22:31:40","slug":"simpson-476-mirrorscope-continued-adventures","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/simpson-476-mirrorscope-continued-adventures\/","title":{"rendered":"Simpson 476 Mirrorscope &#8211; continued adventures"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>So I took Benton up on his offer of giving me the 2nd working scope, and it&#8217;s been super helpful in having a unit to compare to.\u00a0 It&#8217;s hard to diagnose this thing without real schematics &#8211; the ones from the 480 are different enough to be more of a source of confusion.<\/p>\n<p>Before I got the second unit, I took the face place off in order to get better access to the components.\u00a0 Unfortunately the face plate is what holds a lot of the unit together, so it&#8217;s in a very fragile state right now.\u00a0 This thing was not made for easy service.\u00a0 I have it on a plywood square that lets me move it around and spin it more easily.<a href=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7016.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1068\" src=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7016.jpg\" alt=\"img_7016\" width=\"2448\" height=\"3264\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7016.jpg 2448w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7016-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7016-768x1024.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2448px) 100vw, 2448px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s some alligator clips to keep parts of the circuit grounded that were otherwise grounded through the face plate.<\/p>\n<p>I also grabbed the FLIR One from the office and took some temperature measurements.\u00a0 Here are the two hottest components:<\/p>\n<p>A resistor in the vertical bias section<a href=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7007.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1067\" src=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7007.jpg\" alt=\"img_7007\" width=\"374\" height=\"500\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7007.jpg 374w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7007-224x300.jpg 224w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 374px) 100vw, 374px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>A resistor in the power supply:<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7003.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1066\" src=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7003.jpg\" alt=\"img_7003\" width=\"374\" height=\"500\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7003.jpg 374w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7003-224x300.jpg 224w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 374px) 100vw, 374px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Both ALARMINGLY hot.\u00a0 (pardon the mixed units, switched to Celsius 1\/2 way through).\u00a0 The FLIR is a really useful tool &#8211; the only issue is that at these close ranges, the visual and thermal layers don&#8217;t quite line up due to the physical spacing of the cameras.<\/p>\n<p>I started checking values and taking measurements and noticed a few things:<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Screen-Shot-2016-11-19-at-4.40.37-PM.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1074\" src=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Screen-Shot-2016-11-19-at-4.40.37-PM.png\" alt=\"screen-shot-2016-11-19-at-4-40-37-pm\" width=\"868\" height=\"1238\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Screen-Shot-2016-11-19-at-4.40.37-PM.png 868w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Screen-Shot-2016-11-19-at-4.40.37-PM-210x300.png 210w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Screen-Shot-2016-11-19-at-4.40.37-PM-768x1095.png 768w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Screen-Shot-2016-11-19-at-4.40.37-PM-718x1024.png 718w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 868px) 100vw, 868px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Unlike in the 480, the 2nd section plate resistors are different between the horizontal and vertical sections.\u00a0 Horizontal are the same 68k, while the vertical is 39k.\u00a0 All have drifted high, and in some cases out of tolerance. These are 1W resistors, according to the manual.<\/p>\n<p>R109, 2.7k 1\/2W, that connects the cathode to ground, was open.\u00a0 I replaced it with the closest thing I had, a 2.2k.\u00a0 After that, I could make tiny adjustments in the vertical position, but the beam shape went to shit.<\/p>\n<p>Shortly after that, Benton dropped off the second unit.\u00a0 I removed it from it&#8217;s case, and started taking measurements.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7061.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1076\" src=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7061.jpg\" alt=\"img_7061\" width=\"2448\" height=\"2448\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7061.jpg 2448w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7061-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7061-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7061-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7061-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2448px) 100vw, 2448px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>For starters, those resistors don&#8217;t get nearly as hot, so I started to get more confident that the problem was in the vertical biasing section (that bit with the pots hanging off the back)<\/p>\n<p>Finally, I noticed the smoking gun:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7064-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1075\" src=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7064-1.jpg\" alt=\"img_7064-1\" width=\"2448\" height=\"2448\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7064-1.jpg 2448w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7064-1-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7064-1-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7064-1-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7064-1-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2448px) 100vw, 2448px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>That piggybacked resistor pair?\u00a0 That&#8217;s R98, called out as a 39k 1W in the schematic, but that there&#8217;s a 270\u03a9 in parallel with a 330\u03a9, for a total of 150\u03a9 !!.\u00a0 But wait, It gets weirder.\u00a0 That same resistor in the &#8216;working&#8217; unit, is color coded as a 39k, but measures at 260k!\u00a0 W.T.F!?.\u00a0 When I place a closer value, 33k in the bad unit, I start to get a little more range, but the beam is still fuzzy.\u00a0 When I replace it with the 260k resistor, I get tons of range, but still a fuzzy beam.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, on the horizontal side of the bad unit, that 39k resistor (R97) has been replaced with 3 50k in parallel, for 16k.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7066.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1077\" src=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7066.jpg\" alt=\"img_7066\" width=\"2448\" height=\"2448\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7066.jpg 2448w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7066-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7066-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7066-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/img_7066-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2448px) 100vw, 2448px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Time to order a bunch of 1W resistors, I guess.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So I took Benton up on his offer of giving me the 2nd working scope, and it&#8217;s been super helpful in having a unit to compare to.\u00a0 It&#8217;s hard to diagnose this thing without real schematics &#8211; 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