{"id":1394,"date":"2020-12-31T22:24:57","date_gmt":"2021-01-01T03:24:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/?p=1394"},"modified":"2023-06-04T10:17:07","modified_gmt":"2023-06-04T15:17:07","slug":"tektronix-564-revisited","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/tektronix-564-revisited\/","title":{"rendered":"Tektronix 564 Revisited"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>I recently picked up a somewhat rare <a href=\"https:\/\/w140.com\/tekwiki\/wiki\/3A5\">3A5<\/a> auto-ranging plugin for the 560 series, and decided to fire up my <a href=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/tag\/tek564\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">564<\/a> to test it out.  Since it had been over a year since I powered up my 564, I tried it first in it&#8217;s current config, a <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/w140.com\/tekwiki\/wiki\/3A72\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/w140.com\/tekwiki\/wiki\/3A72\" target=\"_blank\">3A72<\/a> Dual Trace plugin, and a <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/w140.com\/tekwiki\/wiki\/3B3\" target=\"_blank\">3B3<\/a> Timebase.  Two problems were readily apparent: <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-jetpack-tiled-gallery aligncenter is-style-rectangular\"><div class=\"tiled-gallery__gallery\"><div class=\"tiled-gallery__row\"><div class=\"tiled-gallery__col\" style=\"flex-basis:50%\"><figure class=\"tiled-gallery__item\"><img alt=\"\" data-height=\"2448\" data-id=\"1396\" data-link=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/?attachment_id=1396\" data-url=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/IMG_2491.jpg\" data-width=\"2448\" src=\"https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/IMG_2491.jpg?ssl=1\" layout=\"responsive\"\/><\/figure><\/div><div class=\"tiled-gallery__col\" style=\"flex-basis:50%\"><figure class=\"tiled-gallery__item\"><img alt=\"\" data-height=\"2448\" data-id=\"1397\" data-link=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/?attachment_id=1397\" data-url=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/IMG_2492.jpg\" data-width=\"2448\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/IMG_2492.jpg?ssl=1\" layout=\"responsive\"\/><\/figure><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<ol><li>The varying intensity &#8211; I strongly suspect this has to do with AC ripple, since it holds steady when line triggered<\/li><li>The trace is about 2 CM short.  <\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>Here&#8217;s a table showing measured supply rail voltages  &amp; ripple.  All voltages are within spec, but the ripple on the -100 V, 125 V &amp; 300 V lines are out of spec.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table><tbody><tr><td>Rail<\/td><td>DC Voltage<\/td><td>Ripple<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>-100 V<\/td><td>-100 V<\/td><td>120 mV<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>125 V<\/td><td>125.5 V<\/td><td>40 mV<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>300 V<\/td><td>301 V<\/td><td>120 mV<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>-12.2 V<\/td><td>-12.21 V<\/td><td>2 mV<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>355 V<\/td><td>357 V<\/td><td><\/td><\/tr><tr><td>420 V<\/td><td>435 V<\/td><td>1.5 V<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>475 V<\/td><td>493 V<\/td><td>280 mV<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>-3,300 V<\/td><td>-3,290 V<\/td><td>8 V<\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Replacements:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul><li>-100 V: C640, a combo 340uF &amp; 10uF 200 V Electrolytic<\/li><li>+125 V: C642, a combo 340uF &amp; 10uF 200 V Electrolytic<\/li><li>+300 V: C644, a combo 340uF &amp; 10uF 200 V Electrolytic &#8211; this is only a 200V cap since it&#8217;s low side is off the 125V supply. <\/li><li>+475 V: C646 2x 40uF<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>So that&#8217;s a rebuild of 3 cans.  C642 &amp; C644 should take care of the ripple on the +420 V unregulated rail, which feeds the high voltage supply.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Using a fluke 6kV probe into my 7854 scope, I was able to measure about 50 V of high frequency ripple on the 3,300 V supply, <em>however<\/em> I&#8217;m not 100% certain that measurement was accurate.  I could pick up about that much just by having the probe within a few inches of the HV supply, so I&#8217;m not sure how much of that was inductive pickup through the probe, or even the cable of the probe?  I&#8217;d love someone to set me straight on that. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Following some recommendations on<a href=\"https:\/\/groups.io\/g\/TekScopes\/topic\/7656051#119475\"> this old post<\/a> on the tekscopes group, I gave the ceramic binding posts a thorough cleaning with IPA &amp; cotton swabs.  <s>So far, I have not seen the intensity modulation problem return<\/s> that didn&#8217;t seem to eliminate the problem, as it returned the next day, albeit not immediately, but after 30 or so minutes of operation.  I did discover that with the cover reattached over the HV transformer &amp; diodes, I was no longer able to detect the HF ripple when measuring high voltage.  The AC ripple still disappears as soon as it&#8217;s measured.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Replacing C342 &amp; C344 greatly reduced the ripple in the 125 V &amp; 300 V supplies, but did nothing for the ripple on the 420 V unregulated, and hasn&#8217;t fixed this intensity modulation issue (I was pretty sure it wouldn&#8217;t though).  I have confirmed that the intensity modulation is at 60Hz, and isn&#8217;t related to any errant signals from the horizontal plug-in by running the vertical plug-in in the horizontal plug-in&#8217;s slot, and feeding it a 60Hz ramp.  The issue reoccurred. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As for the sweep length on the 3B3 &#8211; For now I was able to get the trace to the correct length using the sweep length adjustments pots, however, I had to crank them both (the normal and delayed sweep) fairly far clockwise.  Once adjusted to the correct length, I do get sweep waveforms as documented in the manual, so I don&#8217;t suspect that I&#8217;m compensating for a problem further downstream. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Beam Intensity <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There are, I believe 3 distinct different methods to modify the beam&#8217;s intensity:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol><li>J21-14:  Intensifying Pulse &#8211; changing the intensity of the beam by altering the ground reference of the control grid supply<\/li><li>J21-13:  Unblanking Pulse &#8211; deflection blanking <\/li><li>J11-24: Chopped Blanking Pulse &#8211; <\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/tektronix-564-continued-weirdness\/\">Continued here<\/a>, 2 years later&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I recently picked up a somewhat rare 3A5 auto-ranging plugin for the 560 series, and decided to fire up my 564 to test it out. Since it had been over a year since I powered up my 564, I tried &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/tektronix-564-revisited\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[26],"tags":[68,27],"table_tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1394"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1394"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1394\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1528,"href":"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1394\/revisions\/1528"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1394"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1394"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1394"},{"taxonomy":"table_tags","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/table_tags?post=1394"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}