{"id":820,"date":"2015-11-15T09:58:02","date_gmt":"2015-11-15T14:58:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/?p=820"},"modified":"2015-11-15T10:56:22","modified_gmt":"2015-11-15T15:56:22","slug":"tektronix-181-time-mark-generator-repair","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/tektronix-181-time-mark-generator-repair\/","title":{"rendered":"Tektronix 181 Time Mark Generator repair"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;d been in need of a Time Mark Generator for a while, and finally found one that was the right mix of price and form-factor.\u00a0 With a few exceptions, I&#8217;m loathe to spend over $100 on a piece of old test gear, and the only units under that were either RM500 series units which I&#8217;ve been avoiding, or the 180 which is huge.\u00a0 Speaking of the 180, Richard Sears has a nice <a href=\"https:\/\/richardsears.wordpress.com\/2011\/07\/08\/tektronix-180a-time-mark\/\">write-up on both the 180 &amp; 181<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/181_PC_ISO.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-829\" src=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/181_PC_ISO.jpg\" alt=\"181_PC_ISO\" width=\"4288\" height=\"2848\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/181_PC_ISO.jpg 4288w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/181_PC_ISO-300x199.jpg 300w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/181_PC_ISO-1024x680.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/181_PC_ISO-452x300.jpg 452w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 4288px) 100vw, 4288px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This is clearly an early unit, based on the 3 digit serial number, and the style of the enclosure.\u00a0 Later models have the familiar textured aluminum side panels and rounded corners, while this bears a resemblance to the earliest of Textronix scopes like the 511, 514, etc.. I think this is also the first piece of tek gear I own thats the &#8216;wrong&#8217; color.<\/p>\n<p>After replacing the fuse holder, which required some <em>gentle<\/em> modification of the chassis (hooray drill press), I brought it up on the <a href=\"http:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/?p=726\">TU-75<\/a> variac, and got a trace.\u00a0 After being on for 20 minutes or so, the slower markers became unstable and impossible to calibrate, and it would get worse with time.<\/p>\n<p>I checked the power supply and found that the -150V supply was low, at around -139V (or, um, high, absolutely speaking).\u00a0 The thing is, it would regulate this incorrect voltage like a <em>champ<\/em>.\u00a0 Bringing it up on a variac, that -139V was stable from ~80V up to my uncomfortably hot line voltage of 126V.\u00a0 But, over 20 minutes or so, that would slowly fall to -137V, which is where things would get unstable.<\/p>\n<p>During our semi-annual encounter where he enables my oscilloscope addiction, Kurt suggested I suspect the caps around the feedback loop of the regulator, and he was dead right.\u00a0 Those .01uF bumblebees were leaky over 50v.\u00a0 They&#8217;re still good below that, so I could probably sell them to some audiot, insisting that the leakage is a part of their distinct warmth and tone.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/Screen-Shot-2015-11-14-at-7.42.43-PM.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-838\" src=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/Screen-Shot-2015-11-14-at-7.42.43-PM.png\" alt=\"Screen Shot 2015-11-14 at 7.42.43 PM\" width=\"1630\" height=\"934\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/Screen-Shot-2015-11-14-at-7.42.43-PM.png 1630w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/Screen-Shot-2015-11-14-at-7.42.43-PM-300x172.png 300w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/Screen-Shot-2015-11-14-at-7.42.43-PM-1024x587.png 1024w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/Screen-Shot-2015-11-14-at-7.42.43-PM-500x287.png 500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1630px) 100vw, 1630px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Lifted one side to test<a href=\"http:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5171.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-821\" src=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5171.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_5171.JPG\" width=\"3000\" height=\"2250\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5171.jpg 3000w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5171-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5171-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5171-400x300.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 3000px) 100vw, 3000px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Their tiny replacements<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5174.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-823\" src=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5174.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_5174.JPG\" width=\"3000\" height=\"2250\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5174.jpg 3000w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5174-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5174-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5174-400x300.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 3000px) 100vw, 3000px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>And here&#8217;s the trace on my 453<a href=\"http:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5105.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-826\" src=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5105.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_5105.JPG\" width=\"3000\" height=\"2250\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5105.jpg 3000w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5105-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5105-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5105-400x300.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 3000px) 100vw, 3000px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This is the highest output, 10Mhz.\u00a0 It&#8217;s a frequency multiplier, and I think that modulation is fixable in calibration.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/IMG_5120.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-843\" src=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/IMG_5120.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_5120.JPG\" width=\"3000\" height=\"2250\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/IMG_5120.jpg 3000w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/IMG_5120-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/IMG_5120-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/IMG_5120-400x300.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 3000px) 100vw, 3000px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s a pic of with the &#8216;check count&#8217; switch enabled, showing all of the pulses.\u00a0 If you notice, there&#8217;s 9 small pulses in between every major pulse, not counting the &#8216;half pulse&#8217; right before the next major pulse.\u00a0 That means the divide by 10 multi-vibrator is working properly.\u00a0 This is on my Tek 551 before calibration, which is why it appears to be running fast.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5132.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-788\" src=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5132.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_5132.JPG\" width=\"3000\" height=\"2250\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5132.jpg 3000w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5132-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5132-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5132-400x300.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 3000px) 100vw, 3000px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the 100\u00b5S output on my 7D20.\u00a0 Spot on.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5154.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-789\" src=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5154.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_5154.JPG\" width=\"3000\" height=\"2250\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5154.jpg 3000w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5154-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5154-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/IMG_5154-400x300.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 3000px) 100vw, 3000px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>A quick overview of how it works:<\/p>\n<p>At the heart of the unit is crystal controlled oscillator.\u00a0 Mine has the oven controlled option, which means there&#8217;s actually a little container with the crystal, a heater, and a bimetallic thermostat to keep the constant temperature, which minimizes frequency drift.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s a few shots of the crystal oven:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/IMG_5095.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-846\" src=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/IMG_5095.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_5095.JPG\" width=\"3000\" height=\"2250\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/IMG_5095.jpg 3000w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/IMG_5095-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/IMG_5095-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/IMG_5095-400x300.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 3000px) 100vw, 3000px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>With the outer shell removed<a href=\"http:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/IMG_5097.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-847\" src=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/IMG_5097.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_5097.JPG\" width=\"3000\" height=\"2250\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/IMG_5097.jpg 3000w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/IMG_5097-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/IMG_5097-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/IMG_5097-400x300.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 3000px) 100vw, 3000px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>With the top off, revealing the 1Mhz crystal.\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/IMG_5098.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-848\" src=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/IMG_5098.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_5098.JPG\" width=\"3000\" height=\"2250\" srcset=\"https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/IMG_5098.jpg 3000w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/IMG_5098-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/IMG_5098-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/paulcarbone.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/11\/IMG_5098-400x300.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 3000px) 100vw, 3000px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>After the oscillator, and the 1Mhz pulse shaper, the signal is applied to a series of cascaded 10:1 frequency dividers, which give the 10\u00b5S &#8211; 10mS pulse outputs.\u00a0 In more modern times, you would do this by counting the pulses, letting every 10th through.\u00a0 These are actually re-triggerable multi-vibrators, with a hold-off time adjusted to only let every 10th pulse through, so it&#8217;s not actually counting, it&#8217;s waiting.\u00a0 You can see this when you adjust the trim settings on the front panel.\u00a0 If it&#8217;s incorrectly set, it will hold off for too few or too many pulses, so for example on the 10\u00b5S output, you&#8217;ll end up with 9\u00b5S or 11\u00b5S pulse spacing.\u00a0 Using that &#8216;check count&#8217; switch, this is easy to observe.<\/p>\n<p>More info and pictures on the <a 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